14 replies to this topic

[TheVulong]

This doesn't tell me anything. How about some actual numbers_


Also, "DPS" for sustained fire weapons, "Damage" and "Rate of fire" for burst weapons. Thank you.

[DFTR]

It's a start.  
I'm very impressed w/ their work in the last 2 patches.  

The effective range also is wonky_  I think there's a big difference b/w Tow range and AR_  
Looking at the above it almost looks SMC, Vulcan, and AR are relatively close to eachother in effective range....

[AsianJoyKiller]

Percentages are absolutely freaking useless if they don't bother to tell us what 100% is...

Seriously.
Indicating what unit of measurement and what 100% is of something, is I learned how do in pre-algebra math classes.

Edited by AsianJoyKiller, March 27 2014 - 06:25 PM.

[h0B0]

This is more misleading than bars.

[DK]

AsianJoyKiller, on March 27 2014 - 06:24 PM, said:

Percentages are absolutely freaking useless if they don't bother to tell us what 100% is...

Seriously.
Indicating what unit of measurement and what 100% is of something, is I learned how do in pre-algebra math classes.

agreed

[PhasmaFelis]

TheVulong, on March 27 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

This doesn't tell me anything. How about some actual numbers_

Here you go. I haven't assembled a fully updated spreadsheet left, so you'll have to work forwards from the last complete weapon table. (Or find someone else's spreadsheet.)

But no, this is definitely better than bars. I mean, hardcore number-crunchers are going to be looking for spreadsheets anyway; this is just to give a quick at-a-glance summary. The only thing I want to know is what "Effective Range" measures. Falloff_ Spread_ Some subjective combination that also factors in projectile speed_

For that matter, I'd like to see spread on the official sheets... :-/

[AsianJoyKiller]

PhasmaFelis, on March 27 2014 - 06:45 PM, said:

TheVulong, on March 27 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

This doesn't tell me anything. How about some actual numbers_

Here you go. I haven't assembled a fully updated spreadsheet left, so you'll have to work forwards from the last complete weapon table. (Or find someone else's spreadsheet.)

But no, this is definitely better than bars. I mean, hardcore number-crunchers are going to be looking for spreadsheets anyway; this is just to give a quick at-a-glance summary. The only thing I want to know is what "Effective Range" measures. Falloff_ Spread_ Some subjective combination that also factors in projectile speed_

For that matter, I'd like to see spread on the official sheets... :-/

The thing is, this isn't for the hardcore number crunchers.
This is for the more casual players, ones who may never even visit the forums.

We, the number crunching/forum lurking types don't even need the bars.

But that's not the point.
The point is, if you're going to do something, do it right, especially something so simple.

[Gabbahead]

Guys! I think you don't understand what he talkin' about.
TheVulong mean: the digits ARE NOT A TRUTH. The real stats of weapons are another. And i'm agree with him.

TheVulong, on March 27 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

How about some actual numbers_

Edited by Gabbahead, March 27 2014 - 07:09 PM.

[Stingz]

[Actual numbers 1], [Actual Numbers 2]
They still haven't updated for the March 27th patch though.

[Gabbahead]

Stingz, on March 27 2014 - 07:05 PM, said:

[Actual numbers 1], [Actual Numbers 2]
They still haven't updated for the March 27th patch though.

Yes! Exactly this i mean.
I want to see actual numbers of weapons and mechs stats right in the garage.

[TheVulong]

Gabbahead, on March 27 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

Guys! I think you don't understand what he talkin' about.
TheVulong mean: the digits ARE NOT A TRUTH. The real stats of weapons are another. And i'm agree with him.

TheVulong, on March 27 2014 - 06:15 PM, said:

How about some actual numbers_

After you post i'm not sure what i was talking about

[Zext]

Gabbahead, on March 27 2014 - 07:08 PM, said:

Stingz, on March 27 2014 - 07:05 PM, said:

[Actual numbers 1], [Actual Numbers 2]
They still haven't updated for the March 27th patch though.

Yes! Exactly this i mean.
I want to see actual numbers of weapons and mechs stats right in the garage.

The mech stats we have are perfectly fine and even include units for each stat.

It really seems like laziness here. A half-assed attempt, at best.

[Silverfire]

I'd prefer the bars right now because at least they aren't as confusing and misleading as these false numbers.

At a first glance, players will think that these are actual stats and get a very wrong picture of the game. I did at a first glance.

[Bazookagofer]

Is it that hard to give us numbers_ There are plenty of copies of fire rate , damage etc is it that hard to make a hot fix for this...

[asmodeos]

I'm glad I found this thread.  I thought they were values, not percentages.  I was really excited to see the numbers, but now I can tell how they would be misleading.